Monday, April 24, 2006

Letter from faculty to AMSOL community

The following letter was distributed late last week by members of the AMSOL faculty. (To view full-size, hold cursor over letter and click on small icon on bottom right to enlarge).



10 Comments:

At 11:45 PM, Blogger The Floating Lawyer said...

Anyone seen what the faculty submitted to the BOG?

 
At 3:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Percy,

Simply put, they have their heads in their asses! "God's will" is convenient to throw around if you are a pie-in-the-sky-isn't-it-great-we're-all-Catholic nerd like these clowns seem to be.

Let's cut through the crap. Somthing is rotting at Ave Maria.

Caritas non conturbat me.

 
At 3:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

See thelawdawg's comment under the Kate O'Beirne piece. Enough.

 
At 4:29 PM, Blogger AMSOL Pioneer said...

info-

Your handle is apt. You strain the limits of charity when you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge to real problems many are trying to resolve.

We all must be careful to make sure our words and actions are oriented for the good. For example, I would love to start working on a number of thoughts that have occured to me, involving making lives miserable for the Dean's toadies. But I refrain because doing so would be malicious.

HOWEVER, don't go slinging around accusations of uncharitability against those you've willfully pissed off, and don't persist in pretending the problem exists in everybody else.

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

 
At 5:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Info,

You do indeed have your head up your ass! You have served up a tendentious entree of SUCKING UP to the Dean, the BOG and their talking points. One wonders if you might be an apologist of sorts? While hiding behind the "I'll take the high road by stating that I haven't taken sides yet because the feasibility study isn't done yet," betrays the cowardly worm that you really are!

Ad hominem, you are damn right. So be courageous good sir, tell us your side and extract that skull of yours.

By the way, true love means doing what is best for the other. Since we love our school, we are doing what is best for all all involved and we are not hiding behind the old Rodney King admonition.

 
At 8:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pardon the grammatical errors above. But you get the message.

 
At 1:37 AM, Blogger vebnworb13 said...

first, I don't think anyone is being hateful here. yes, emotions are running high and, yes, people are concerned on all sides of the issues, but we ought not say we hate-because none of us do. you have to begin with the assumption that we are all behaving out of love and not hate or spite. no matter what each individual believes the truth is that this is a time for us to come together and learn about ourselves, our peers, our mentors, and our school. With that said it will come as no shock to anyone here that I am upset with our current situation, however some are not. It is true that none of us has all the information, but this is a place where we can gather it and discuss it and that discussion could be more productive and helpful to both sides if we could act as the lawyers and potential lawyers that we are instead of carrying on like high schoolers. If any one wants to discuss the facts or ask questions I would love to hear them. Regadless of how we got here the facts are the alum board voted no confidence, the following day the student petition was turned in which demonstrated that a significant portion of the student body felt the same way, the next evening the faculty resolution was drafted and the faculty voted no confidence. Now the question is: Given these facts what do we do now?

 
At 12:04 PM, Blogger TheLawDog said...

Info and current 2l,

I respect your opinions, but they can only be opinions of people who are:
a. not fully willing to explore the facts as we know them; or
b. so intent to avoid conflict of any kind that you completely ignore what is before you.

Don't confuse your unwillingness to form an opinion as courage. It is not. You are so worried about the school folding, and getting a bad name, that you willfully ignore the injustice before your eyes. It happened to AMU (and let's not pretend that financial scandals, disgruntled faculty, and students that had to be bought off are small matters) because the constituencies were unprepared and ill-equipped. TM, whether he understands it or not, trampled on people's rights and seriously disrputed the lives of those who gave themselves completely to his work. ALL WITHOUT CONSULTING THEM OR LISTENING TO THEIR VIEWS. He is starting that process with AMSL, and I (and others) will stand up for those who have had their voices ignored. You talk about waiting until the feasibility study is done, but don't you understand? The study will be done in August, and the Board will be voting in September on the move. When are you going to voice your concerns? Think they will be heard? The writing is on the wall, and if you are not willing to stand with the many many good Catholics who oppose the timing and tactics (and not necessarily the move per se) of this whole thing, then at least stop pretending you are taking the high road.

 
At 6:00 PM, Blogger TheLawDog said...

Info,

You want to know the difference between this situation and when the founding faculty were "fightin' the man" at Detroit Mercy? Well, I'll tell you. Dobranksi was on the right side of the fight back then during the period he was dean there. You should ask yourself how he has lost their confidence in so short a time. I can see the motivation for why TM and BD want to conduct the move decision in this fashion. Give me a good reason the founding faculty would put their reputations on the line AGAIN if it was a simple matter of not caring for the swamp? Seems unlikely.

 
At 6:40 PM, Blogger YoBro Administrator said...

Information,
Here is the critical point that is raised in the letter posted here:

The Board of Governors has a right to have a different opinion than the majority of alumni, faculty, and current students. All three of those constituencies (or their elected representatives) have consistently raised their concerns to the Board and been ignored. Now those constituencies have presented resolutions of no confidence in the dean (or a call for a renewed confidence in leadership). The Alumni Board and Faculty even asked to meet with the BofG and delayed the public release of this information. But instead of exercising their proper duties and at least listening to what the majority of the people who are involved with the day-to-day operations of the school had to say, they simply stuck their heads in the sand yet again.

I know of at least one accrediting body that will not look too favorably upon this, regardless of who is "right" in this dispute.

The Board of Governors are fiddling while Ave Maria Law School is burning to the ground.

 

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